High Risk... High Reward...
Cavs need to move on from J Allen aka JA , D Garland aka DG...
Mobley has had time to fill out & put on muscle which was plan all along. Mobley is not a 4! Maybe 15yrs ago he would be a 4. But in modern NBA he is a 5! He can switch 1-5 & is DPOY candidate tho I think wemby will be winning at least 3x in a row or more barring injury..
Mobley at 5 will unlock his full potential!
Cle offense needs SPACE... MOBLEY AT 4 , AND JA at 5 kills Spacing.. as neither are threats from 3 consistently...
Mobley at 5 opens up Cle to play B Ingram at the 4 in this trade scenario.
From Cle perspective we need spacing & shooting around Donovan Mitchell but also losing DG we need secondary playmaker & Ingram can initiate offense & run p n r & get to his mid range gm. He's not best 3 pt shooter but is an assassin at mid range.
Koby Altman is smart by saying none of core 4 are available. Makes teams over pay.
Once Don signs on dotted line extension then these moves will follow.. JA def gets moved unless Don veto it but that's just dumb & Garland plays no Defense & is too small w Don in the backcourt.
Cle getting K Johnson & picks 4 , & 8 In this draft while giving Spurs pick #20 back in 1st Rd. Along w Atl 2x unprotected 1st Rd picks in 25 & 27 & Spurs 1st in 29. All in all it's 4x 1st Rd picks & K johnson for a 24yr All Star P&R savant to pair w D Garland.
From Spurs POV... this unlocks wemby completely.. DG will be protected by wemby on Def.. DG is best Lob passer In the GM & has Potential to develop his 3 pt gm to be Curry like & he is only 23 - 24.. so from Spurs POV to get an All Star pnr maestro to team up w Wemby giving up 4x 1st Rd picks + K Johnson is a no brainer... Spurs aren't able to get that star player w pick 4 or 8. Or that pnr maestro...
As for Pelicans Zion & Ingram don't work together. Similar to JA , Mobley. Pelicans ain't gonna extend Ingram max $ either in his last year.
If Cle moves on from JA , & Garland then they can extend Ingram to a Max. K Johnson should be a cav already. Cle passed on him to take D Windler thx to John beilin. Keldon was taken very next pick.
Cle trading DG for a role player + 4x 1st rd picks is high Risk high Reward. This draft class is weak. But that is at the top. There is talent in draft but not no wemby. Tho Sarr has potential & riccashier has potential.. they will go 1 & 2.. then the KY guard will go 3...
With Pick 4 Cle can go take Stephon Castle off the board who can defend and wants to play pg but prob is really a true 2g with secondary playmaking. He defends tho ; and is 6 5...
Though if I have pick 4 & 8 I take Donovan Clingman at #4. Trading JA u need a backup Center but Clingman can shoot lights out for a 5. He's 7 2 and only 20yrs old. His jumper is legit better than JA & Mobley already. And proven winner w NCAA titles.
Now S Castle ain't available at 8 now, tho he could drop but unlikely. The reason I take Don Clingman at 4 is to take Devin Carter at 8.. Devin Carter is elite Defender and 6 2 w a 6 9 wingspan. He ee.inds me of Derrick White.
Then w pick #21 from New Orleans I target Pitt Bub Carrington who is youngest draft prospect I believe & huge upside to be like D Garland potentially in a few years. Not best defensively but has got gm on offense.
Another option is Isiah Collier w his pro like build and layup bully finishes. He can run the point & develop in a few years..
Pelicans POV they want to get off Ingram now but truth is no team wants to pay him max $ as they don't view him as a max player. He can't win as am Alpha 1 and tho he avgs 20 5 & 5 he is not elite Defender. He also isn't the best 3 pt shooter. Pelicans tried w Zion but Ingram don't work w zion.
Pels lose Jonas valanciunas to FA and Jarrett Allen is exactly what Pels need. They need that true Def Anchor and JA gives them that. Plus max struss can hit 3 & defend on a team friendly deal. Most importantly they get rid of Ingram & get an All Star big back in JA. They give up a late 1st Rd pick & Dyson Daniel's & get struss back in the Deal. Remember OKC desperately wants JA to team w Chet Holmgren. That's okc missing piece to win a chip as they got out rebounded badly vs minn when they lost series.
Okc has alot of picks & prospects to go after JA. New Orleans also will find there ain't alot of takers on Ingram but this deal makes too much sense for the pels. They get 2x 2nds for the late 1st & get M Struss who is perfect fit to stretch the floor and play Defense.. pels incl 6 8 d Daniel's as while to land the All Star J Allen...
Cle has 1 yr to see how Ingram plays w the new squad.
Potential Starting lineups for Cavs.
Big lineup
Don Mitchell
D Daniels
B Ingram
Evan Mobley
Don Clingman
Devin Carter, Keldon Johnson, Bub Carrington, plus rest of Cavs reserves....
Cle would have the defense and shooting to go around Donovan..
Clingman at 7 2 can space the floor similar to chet holmgren. Clingman can shoot the 3.
Mobley could be in the dunker spot. Adding Devin Carter who is shorter than dg at 62 but has 6 9 wing span. Similar to Don Mitchell. But d Carter is elite Defender & can run pnr w 1nd unit.
D Daniel's is 6 8 and was a target for cle in his draft few yrs ago. If Pels want JA... Daniel's will be incl in any deal. He needs to improve his 3pt shot tho. But still young.
Keldon Johnson can do it all and if Ingram dont work out, keldon can play the 3 and Ingram can be dealt or signer & traded next year.. lAL prob won't have lbj 4ever so a return to LA..
If Ingram shows def improvement & it works out Cle can sign him longterm.
Spurs pov getting wemby a true pg and best Lob passer In the gm is worth 4x 1st rd picks.
2x 1sts in this weak draft class.. plus they get back pick #20.. + Atl 2x fut 1sts & there 29 1st rd pick. All unprotected. All for a 24 yr All Star pg who could become the next Steph Curry... at age 23 -24 what was Curry gm like?
Cle takes a huge risk but w a high Reward potentially if picks work out... plus u got a gamble on Ingram for 1 year. And u get 3x fut 1st rd picks to improve ur team thru draft or by trade...
I don't see Spurs trading there 2x picks tho as this is the organization that traded established stars g hill & d Murray for fut 1st rd picks..
Imagine if Spurs had got even #1st rd picks. They have pick 1 this year.
Though 23 yr old Darius Garland throwing lobs to Wemby & passing to Vassel under popovich teaching DG could = multiple titles... spurs develop players better than anyone..
I could see Spurs trying to hold onto pick #4 and want to give up pick #8 & add a fut 1st but if I'm CLE I want both picks. Clingman at #4 & Devin Carter are pieces Cle needs to add.
Thoughts on trades for Cle? What trades u think Cle should do if any at all?