First for Knicks, they get back Herb Jones who can definitely help them in their league-15th defense. As for the Pelicans, they get a Josh Hart who has multiple years on contract and the can trade him for at least one first, and for the WAS 2025 pick, it was top 10 protected and 2026 was top-8 and if it's still protected. It would convert to two seconds which plus NY sends away seven seconds, should be a fair value for Herb.